People tell me that all
e bikes burn out (melt down). This is not true, the reason most burn out is
simply that most people just over power their equipment. If one would use a
programmable controller you could keep your equipment from overheating. Get one
with heat sensors. It may not be able to sense the heat in the coils, but the
machine can compensate for the difference between the inside and the outside.
A controller is
just a gate to allow more power to flow from whatever the batteries
can deliver, and the motor, well, the motor is just what converts
electrical energy into mechanical work.
Heat is the biggest reason electric
bicycles do not last long!
Heat is the nemesis of motors and
controllers. More heat is created by low voltage than high voltage.
Amperage creates friction, at high voltage there is less amps pumping through
the wires. The lower the gear the less stress is placed on the motor. So if
you’re motor is overheating get a low gear. If your motor is not big enough you
will need lower gears. The smaller wattage the motor the lower the gear is
The majority of the heat that can damage the motor and controller comes from
the amps of current. By choosing a system that has higher volts, you can
achieve the same amount of power with fewer amps.
Heat only occurs when
the motor R.P.M.s are not EQUAL to the peak efficiency R.P.M.s (see the
label). This is "by definition" because the point at which
the motor runs "best" is the place that it runs
So the thing to look for in an E-bike
is one that uses at least 48volts and a motor of the largest wattage you can
afford. Driving up our 8% grade hill with a total combined weight of 300lbs
will be easier on the motor than 400lbs.
You should use MTB gears with at least
24 sprockets on the front and 34 sprockets on the rear. 350 watts will drive
300lbs up an 8% grade at about 5-6 mph. use a speedometer! Try it out and
feel the motor to see if it is overheating.
500 watts will do the job at about 8-9
mph with the bikes gears to keep the motor cool by making sure it is running
fast enough. If you hear your motor bog down when climbing a hill it is over
Another big source of heat is when the
driver twists the accelerator all the way up and pumps too many amps through
the motor, pushing past the peak efficiency wattage (see the label on the
motor). The best way to avoid this is to have an amp meter like the Cycle-analyst;
and a programmable controller.
Power does not change when it goes
through gears, all gears do is slow the power down so it can push the wheel
easier creating less heat in the motor.
Read more of
this here: Electric bikes.com
The power that you need
(or want) is further complicated because the true limit of the power you can
put through a motor is how much heat it can survive. If you take a given motor
and begin raising the volts, you will get some extra power, and also the motor
will spin faster than it did at a lower voltage. If you begin raising the
maximum amps, the acceleration will get faster, but…adding more amps will cause
most of the heat that will kill a motor (and sometimes the controller).
Factory power ratings
are rarely accurate. Legitimate sellers under-rate their kits, because so many
buyers will overheat their E-bike and want to have the motor and controller
replaced due to heat damage. Then, there are the other retailers…the ones that
don’t answer their customer service lines…they claim their kit will put out
thousands of watts and will climb anything!…and then when you melt something,
they refuse to help you.
Here’s a tip about
raising the power that you can use on all these kits. If you are running on
fairly flat land, you can run much higher amps for some very impressive
acceleration. You will draw the max amps setting for only a few seconds while
the bike is speeding up, and once your top-speed stabilizes…the amps draw
slides back down to a low setting that only needs to maintain your speed, and
that gives the motor and controller a chance to cool down before the next
But here’s the
worst-case-scenario…you loan your E-bike to a friend who doesn’t understand
this and then they ride it up a very long and steep uphill at full-throttle.
With no cooling-off phase, the motor and controller overheat, and your friend
has to do the “walk of shame” back to your place. This is where you should have
limited the max amps the kit can provide (a Cycle Analyst E-bike computer is an
easy way to adjust the amps the controller can draw).
popular MAC is generally regarded as capable of performing very well when using
25A, but…if you live in a very flat region you could actually use more. One of
the reasons the MAC has grown in popularity is because it’s one of the few kits
where you can order it with a temp sensor installed inside the motor from the
factory (ebikes.ca is the other seller with temp sensors). If you have a Cycle
Analyst (the best E-bike computer on the market), you can easily adjust how
many amps the controller can use, so you can adjust it to get the max power
A controller is just a gate to allow more power to flow from whatever the batteries can deliver, and the motor, well, the motor is just what converts electrical energy into mechanical work.http://www.ebikes.ca/learn/power-ratings.html
The majority of the heat that can damage the motor and controller comes from the amps of current. By choosing a system that has higher volts, you can achieve the same amount of power with fewer amps.
And using an oversized motor at a lower than maximum wattage will keep it from burning out. But it could still burn out your tires, and pop your chain. Unless you set your controller to take it easy on the acceleration.
The controller can also keep your battery from draining too low. And limit the speed of the vehicle.
Brushless motors could be the best kind of motor to use on an EV because they will out last any other kind of motor, but they have less slow speed torque than brashed motors.
Brushless motors will not work at all with out a good controller. So unless you want to build a hot rod that will burn out the power system, don't be a cheapskate. Get a controller that will handle 12 volts even if your not going to use a 12 volt system. The lower the speed the lower the voltage, and believe me that when climbing steep hills with cargo you will need all the help you can get.
For a long time in high current/power, the motor might over heat & even burnt. A thermic Probe should be installed in hub motors so that the controller will turn off when it's 120°C (248°f) inside of motor.
If 3 to 7 years life span is long for a big hub motor, then forget them.(For Life expectancy, hub motors could work 5000 hrs without damage in Lab. In real life it depends on the motor's usage (e.g. hitting bumps and water getting in).
Stronger configuration like wider lamination, more cooper wire/phase wire and thicker cross-sectional area, bear more current in usage.
You can make a good heavy-duty motor like the brushed Mars 909 last twenty years if you do not over power them with a cheap controller.
Brushed motors have more slow speed torque than brushless motors?
What a motor controller does: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAY5JInyHXY
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